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We are going to try and encorporate a step, a bit like an aeroplane winglet, in the trailing edge of the rudder, so as to form a step. In shallow water sailing it will be out of the water as the rudder floats reasonably high.
This will allow re boarding by climbing up the rudder.
I will post some photos as soon as I have tried and tested it.
Regards,
Matt
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Guy Briselden
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With reference to Matt\\\'s last post about the \\\"aeroplane tail\\\" step on the rudder - I am now the very proud owner of BR3 where he has tried it out, so I have tried to post a picture of it, in the up, raised out of the water position (Apologies if it doesn\\\'t work - my first attempt at attaching a photo!). It seems to me to be a very practical solution, it is fixed in position so you cant forget it or move it out of reach, etc. It is stable and solid, with the handhold of the mizzen base it gives good leverage, interested in your thoughts.
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Leo Colsell
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This is how I have tried to cope with the problem of getting back into my Storm 15: a couple of small steps epoxied to the stern post. This might interfere with the hydrodynamics, but that is not an issue for me. As you see, this was done before painting - the final coat will have to wait till Spring now. The theory is that one grabs the rudder, gets a foot onto one step, and with the other on its mate, stands up grasping the gunwales; after which it should be a doddle to get a leg in. Great theory; my widow will post a mail if it doesn’t work.
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Leo Colsell
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Sorry, this is a second attempt to show the steps on the primed hull.
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Claus Riepe
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Leo, great idea, well carried out. Hope it\\\'ll work just as well. This is a great thread, very practical ideas popping up. I have another idea to offer: Bolting a ready-made hinged mast-step ( http://www.awn-shop.de/MAST-STEP_-_Maststufe/0310257/produktdetails.html) to the rudder / rudderhead. Costs around GBP 17.00 . I have done that for \\\'Craic\\\' now, as an additional second step, because her transom is so high. It\\\'s bolted to the stainless steel rudderhead about 5\\\" above the waterline level. It\\\'s made from sturdy plastic, and has a tight fit when hinged up, so doesn\\\'t rattle when under engine. When folded up, it is so small it goes practically unnoticed. |
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Julian Swindell
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My first post to this forum, so I hope it works. This is an old but good thread. A couple of points I have once raised on the Drascombe forum. It is possible to climb up a small rope ladder if you really have to, but it is not comfortable. Cave explorers climb vertical rope ladders by putting a leg round the back of the ladder and pushing a heel back onto a rung. This means the lower end of the ladder hangs down between your thighs. Then put your other leg round the other side and push that heel into the next rung. A bit like climbing a rope. Not fun, not elegant, and really tricky next to a boat hull, but it does work. There is no real solution to tipping the boat towards you if you try to climb up the side, so you really need to get in over the back.
My Winkle Brig has a small narrow transom ladder permanently bolted to the stern and it is really simple. I get in and out with it all the time.
I do not currently have a Swallow boat, but I had a sail in a Bayraider at Beal Park and I am now drooling over the Baycruiser. Just have to convince my wife...
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Tony
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Hi, Julian.
I envy you your little ladder! Im the proud owner of the Cardigan Bay Lugger, Four Sisters. Being a double ender, getting in over the stern is a bit problematic. Ive tried most things but am reluctant to put my full 12 stones (...er...perhaps with a leetle bit more for luck...) on the rudder pintles. My wife and I are towing her out to Greece again this summer so I will try out a few other ideas once in warmer water. I will keep you posted.
Yes. The Bay Cruiser! Probably have a lot more room inside than the CBL and with the Bay Raider sail plan, variable water ballast ...and, of course, transom, will be a very desirable package. A real alternative to ageing Drascombe longboat cruisers or over-weight trailer-sailers. I have a friend with a Parker 21 who wouldnt dream of towing it far -much too heavy- but is getting bored with the same old cruising grounds every year. Should suit him very well.
Point of interest:- Ive towed the CBL across Europe for the last two years using my 2litre Subaru Impreza Sport. Strange thing is the petrol consumption doesnt seem to go up much when Im towing. The Scooby doesnt seem to notice that the boat is there at all! Is it that motorway cruising is that much more efficient?.... that double ended boats are just as slippy in air as in water? (in comparison the car is as streamlined as a house brick)...or just that I dont lead-foot it as much when Im towing? All very strange.
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Julian Swindell
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Hi Tony,
I would think that the rudder pintles are probably strong enough even for 12 stone... I think the Bayraider now has built in steps on the leading edge of the rudder so it can be used as a ladder. I have seen a dutch yacht, with a huge barn door rudder, which actually had steps up the rudder blade to act as ladder, which I thought was quite neat (picture below I hope).
I have got a Subaru Forester, which makes an Impreza seem really streamlined. What I have noticed over the last few weeks is that now I am driving up and down to Poole at low speeds to save expensive fuel, I get there in the same time and my fuel costs have actually gone down despite the hike in fuel prices. As you say, all very strange.
PS I have nearly convinced my wife about the Bay Cruiser...
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Julian Swindell
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Below is another idea for what I think is a rather refined home-made set of steps for a Winkle Brig in France, posted on the Winkle Brig Forum. Again, it works on a transome. Getting back into a double ender is really quite a problem still looking for a good solution.
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